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qrd · Full Member Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 133

bonnydonny suggest you get out there as you are totally wrong
I went to Truckin l the other week and the lady who runs the club does it ALL out of her pocket, she has to wait every month to see who will walk through the door, would you be prepared to do that or at least know what your talking about before commenting.
And merry christmas to you all

East Coast Outlaw · Full Member Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 204 Location: ESSEX

Ive said this before in other ways on other posts but.........

The problem we have is not unique to CM, but covers most genres of music. The problem is with the Great British Public. (of which musos are a part)

As a nation, we have generally become too selfish, self centred and apathetic, from checking on the pensioner up the road during the winter, to supporting our local bands and beyond. Too many of us cant be assed to take action, but are only too glad to complain when we lose a club or the pensioner dies alone

We have lost our spirit of community, of fun, of togetherness, and yet we all want to live in a communal world, and one day we might all sit up and do something about it, but not tonight cause we cant miss Corrie, Eastenders etc etc, which is, of course more important.

I have Italian friends, and they assure me that at least 40 out of 52 Sundays in the year, their family, all 30+ of them have lunch together, this is usual across Italy. I have Dutch friends who tell me something similar. How often do the Brits do this.........Xmas, Weddings, Funerals.

If we cant be a family with our Families, what hope is there for extra curricular activities.

Only when we all learn to help and support each other and to have fun together again can we move forward

A little off topic I know, but the sentiment is the same. The sooner Artistes, Clubs, Promoters and Punters realise that we all need each other, rather than using each other as objects to shaft the better

There are of course exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions and not the rule

Merry Xmas one and all, and to all Bands, Duos, & Solos out there, a VERY BUSY NEW YEAR
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bonnydonny · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

hey grd.....ive forgotten more than you will ever know about british country music...do you line dance or dress up as a cowboy by any chance...ask that lady who puts the shows on if she would be willin to shell out a couple of grand on some forgotten yank... or 500 quid on a brit band....ive played in bands who have commanded 1200 quid a bookin.. ive travelled the length n breadth of great brittain....i stopped doin so when the line dancing lemmings teamed up with the cross dressers and finally put some more nails in the coffin lid of original british country music....you might be brainwashed ...i aint....you might be happy being exploited...i aint ...the fee dont matter in the heart of any passion playin muso....its the appreciation and the smug satisfaction of being up there performing and watching peaple enjoying what you do....i still play my guitar...double bass ..banjo...dobro...violin and sing....i still write songs....i aint goin to do it to line anyones pocket theres a lot of people who think the way i do....theres a lot pulling the plug...you need to be thankin them musos who are still around your scene for stickin with it because one day they too will get the message and then what... cds playin while you dance... you wouldnt go to work for nothin ...dont expect others to.....a little knowledge is very dangerous...in your case grd it seems little knowledge certainly is.....put bluntly... you dont know what your talking about....oh and as for grumpy ....ha...your a bit of a comedian i reckon cocka... you certainly make me laugh...merry christmas....
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Dixie · Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:07 am Post subject:

bonnydonny · Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject:

time to retire i reckon from this debate....i kinda wondered why there wasnt many past present and well known artists contributing to this forum now i realise why....good luck to all the aspiring up and coming passion players..thanks .to ian cal ford, greenfield , eco. irene and other constructive educated folk on here, good luck i enjoyed your thoughts...to the cross dressing dimwits..the line dancin lemmings and the karaoke queens ...well done ...you got me licked....yawn....yawn...5 6 7 8 but most of all thanx to the likes of dumpy....sorry,..grumpy and his cronies for helpin me see the light. Wink

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Dixie · Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject:

bye
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grumpy · Full Member Joined: 13 Nov 2002 Posts: 177

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Toptelepicker · Junior Member Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 13

This conversation has been going on for years and years and will probably continue for many more to come, assuming there are still musicians willing to fund this so call country music scene. Ian, I admire your honesty in telling it how it is. I first gigged on the British Country Music Scene almost 30 years ago to the date, and very little if anything has changed for the better. I have played with some of the top UK bands and I have supported top American artists and never made a penny and in fact I barely made a living. I quit the scene a few years back and have no desires to return to this terrible excuse for a country music scene that is heavily populated with musical philistines and who really cannot tell good from bad. I remember one particular moron asking if we played a certain line dance song that he and his wife liked to dance to, when we told him we did not he was overheard telling someone else that everyone was in for a crap night!. I have on numerous occasions witnessed none qualified (either journalistically or musically) so call club reporters criticise artists for the most ridiculous things and potentially destroying careers along the way. Wouldn't it be great to pay these idiots back by visiting their places of work and then writing self opinionated drivel and see if we can destroy their employment? I would like to add that I have also met some great people on the scene over the years, mainly musicians who like me stuck with this scene for the true love of country music... May I point out before someone else does, I am neither bitter, grumpy, twisted or anything else for that matter, I am merely expressing my freedom of speech about a club scene that has in my opinion no future, is self imploding and relies on the financial generosity of musicians to keep it going...
Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year...

grumpy · Full Member Joined: 13 Nov 2002 Posts: 177

East Coast Outlaw · Full Member Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 204 Location: ESSEX

Dixie · Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject:

Hit the nail on the head there ECO...most sensible post I've read on this topic for a while...
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grumpy · Full Member Joined: 13 Nov 2002 Posts: 177

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