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Ian Cal-Ford · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject:

And to Ian Calford is your band included in the "not worth waiting 18 months to see

Maybe Lone Wolf maybe. But thats not the debate here is it. I personally couldnt give a toss what people think of me, or wont wait the 18 months to come and see us, infact, I would not accept anything other than a extremely outspoken bigheaded knowall, that knows it all about the music I play but is good at it.

I have never been able to understand the methodology behind booking so far infront. As for the inexperienced Country acts out there wanting the same money as the more popular acts, well, who said the popular acts were any good anyway, I didn't, infact, I said quite the opposite. As far as I can see, there will be no movement on the scene as far as improvement, unless that would be my departure, however, I am an asset on this scene and for that I should be looked after. As far as Roger and the likes of, well, in my book, these are the guys that invented the British scene, unfortunately its the 'Club Organisers' that have killed it not the Muso's.

The fact that they accept Sh^t acts and cheep backing track vocalists week after week, plus the pathetic image that certain people have given it just leaves me in state of loss.

Surely the clubs must owe it to the paying customer to 'Suprise' them now and again, instead of booking the same ol crap every time.

GODFATHER, I know where your comming from and agree with you as ever, but I feel strongly on this one Ol Friend.

Roger, your always right anyway.

So to end this paragraph, Lone wolf, I'm not sure I know you as I guess that Lone Wolf is not your real name, but I can understand why you call yourself that, You probably know who I am and may have even seen us, maybe you have even liked my act or maybe not, either way, there's not much I can improve on with what I do,
as far as waiting the 18 months to see us, well, there are very few clubs that I like well enough to forget them when their gone.

But me, I will always have my music, be it real and mindblowing and I have Jimmie Rogers, Cash, Jennings, Williams and Haggard along with Coe and the likes to thank for it, Not the british Cowboys or Indians.

The Karaoke Cowboy · Junior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 98

Ian, I think you misunderstood Lone Wolf. I think he was asking you whether you thought you were worth waiting 18 months to see, I don't think he was degrading you in any way.

Ian Cal-Ford · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject:

brian ahern · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject:

The Godfather knows we often share the same thought because of our passion for country music Ian.

We also know that we can only encourage live country music in this high tec world we share and progression has left much of the past behind and in many ways forgotten.

The country music scene that we helped to build and develop has become the monster and the ghost that haunts us. The secret is not to become obsessed with this to a point of distraction. Instead enjoy the past and sing in praise of the pleasure that it once brought and who knows things might go full circle or at the least find a new dawning with country music returning back to the people and away from the gimmicks of falsehood.
brian

Ian Cal-Ford · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject:

The Godfather knows we often share the same thought because of our passion for country music Ian.

We also know that we can only encourage live country music in this high tec world we share and progression has left much of the past behind and in many ways forgotten.

The country music scene that we helped to build and develop has become the monster and the ghost that haunts us. The secret is not to become obsessed with this to a point of distraction. Instead enjoy the past and sing in praise of the pleasure that it once brought and who knows things might go full circle or at the least find a new dawning with country music returning back to the people and away from the gimmicks of falsehood.
brian

Now thats a good answer. which is why you always have my respect Brian.
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lonesome on'ry & mean · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject:

brian ahern · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject:

Hey boys I am flattered.....only doing my job sir......now get the beer in.
Laughing

brian.

Lone Wolf · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:16 am Post subject:

Ian Calford said "So to end this paragraph, Lone wolf, I'm not sure I know you as I guess that Lone Wolf is not your real name, but I can understand why you call yourself that, You probably know who I am and may have even seen us, maybe you have even liked my act or maybe not, either way, there's not much I can improve on with what I do,
as far as waiting the 18 months to see us, well, there are very few clubs that I like well enough to forget them when their gone."
No you don't know me Ian my real name is Dave Thomas and that won't mean anything to you either, yes I have seen you twice infact, your friend Roger Humphries I have not seen but he is due to appear at one of the festivals I attened, but like a lot of acts I have not heard I stop outside the big tent within earshot to see wether the music attracts my attention then I go in and see who's there.
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Marshal · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:17 am Post subject:

Hi Dave - Hope to be at your event this weekend. Just wondering why all the good acts on the country music circuit are not on the forum nowadays - we only seem to get the moaners lately - can't say I blame the others for keeping clear. All the acts I know are really enjoying themselves and are giving the public what they want, not what the band thinks that the audience want - Reckon some of the moaners are in the wrong industry, what do you think? Saw that gal on TV last night in Nashville who wanted to meet some country singers - enjoyed the program very much - everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves no matter whether they were just listeners or dancers - now that's what it should be like - we just don't need the moaners who make the audience feel uncomfortable - surprised that some of them get booked at all.

See ya on Saturday Dave.

John Stannard · Supreme Member Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 1718

Hey Marshal, have you ever stopped to wonder just what it is that makes the Muso's on the country circuit moan so much ?

BTW, not posting a moan here doesn't mean you aint moaning to other players, you might be surprised just how miserable the 'happy' ones are too.

Jus' saying .....

AIDEN · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject:

Marshall said

Marshal · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject:

Hi John and Aiden - First let me say that I have nothing but admiration for you guys who have such an interest in Country Music that you'll entertain other folk so that they can share in it. Not everyone likes the same music of course and this applies to any other entertainment in life, but I'm surprised when acts complain that folk want to dance to their music, and as for what they are dressed in well I don't see it makes any difference - They could all wear football strips for me and it wouldn't spoil my entertainment for the evening - but there again that's just my opinion. I reckon that life's too short to just moan for the sake of it, but I suppose it's just in some folks nature that's all. Anyway guys, please don't take it to heart about my opinions - I mean no offence to anyone - just keep up the good work with the music and most important of all enjoy it....

Cheers All,

Ian

brian ahern · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject:

Marshal

You make a salient point especially around the freedom of choice by an audience of paying customers. Especially those raised on the working mens club culture of old.

This culture has nothing to do with country music other than it being basically a blue collar working class music

In general British people have no or very little exposure to country music on a large scale in this country so it must be difficult for them to equate with the subject other than it being in the bag of working class entertainment.

So opinions are often based on what people want to hear in the form of entertainment and it is quite obvious that its things they know and can equate with.

This does frustrate many country music performers who want to keep it live, keep it real and keep it country. They are not moaning just fighting or defending their corner within a minority interest music.

The trials and struggles will continue just as they have been doing for years. Especially now there is internet forums etc to broaden views and learn from.

Keep up you support for the scene and most of all enjoy what it has to offer.
brian.

drummersteve · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: bookings

if we go any lower in fees,we will be playing gigs for nothing.
price of fuel, and car repairs,and the costs are going up all the time.
i have said this before, country music is coming to end in this country.
which is a shame. Sad

regards d/steve

ROGER HUMPHRIES · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject:

Drummersteve.

Maybe you're right and the CMC scene is coming to an end S L O W L Y .... but there are still a lot of venues out there to play country music.

Perhaps its been far too easy for any Tom, Dick or Harry to jump on the bandwaggon, seeing the UK CMC scene as a bit of an easy option and a ready made (safe) market to actually work in for too long, instead of playing venues where you're faced with a potentially hostile/non country audience, where you've got to do more than play the latest set of currently popular country songs that they can linedance to.

There are a lot of places to play if you're prepared to look for them & do more than just want to work a CMC circuit.